with   competitors   that   claim   they comply “by the book”? Roddey Dowd, Jr.: Customers should have the peace of mind of knowing that overseas manufacturers have diligently followed   all   the   necessary   quality control requirements embedded in the standards.  In  our  business,  ASTM  and CISPI   standards  for  cast  iron  pipe  and fittings    require    consistent    tensile strength,   chemical   and   dimensional testing   and   radiation   testing   of   raw materials.  These  tests  must  be  done during  the  manufacturing  process  by the  manufacturer  to  ensure  consistent quality and to be in compliance with the standard.   No   third-party   certifier   or importer can do that after the fact. The   problem   is   that   most   U.S. importers  purchase  cast  iron  soil  pipe and  fittings  from  multiple  foundries  in China.   The   name   of   the   producing foundry frequently is not stenciled on or cannot be readily identified on the pipe being  sold  (which  is  required  by  the standard).   This   makes   it   difficult   to identify  which  foundry  produced  the material.  Also,  the  pipe  sometimes  is only  marked  with  the  month  and  the year it was manufactured, not the date of    manufacture   (which   is   also   a requirement  of  the  standard).  These lapses make it impossible for consumers to tie back pipe or fittings to chemical, physical    and    dimensional    testing reports at a given foundry, as required by the standard. If there was a quality problem,   how   would   the   purchaser know what day the material was made, or which foundry made it, so they could ask for test reports that would verify the quality? Recently,  the  Michigan  Construction Code   Commission   voted   to   deny approval of an importer of cast iron soil pipe and fittings from China for use on state construction projects in the state of Michigan. In the case, a U.S. importer had  requested  official  approval  of  the products they were reselling. They were denied approval after Michigan regulators  were  not  satisfied  that  the products     they     were     outsourcing conformed   to   applicable   standards referenced  in  the  Michigan  Plumbing Code. Requiring   products   to   conform   to applicable  manufacturing  standards  is essential   in   today’s   world   of   global outsourcing.    The    news    headlines demonstrate   all   too   well   what   can happen   if   they   are   not   followed. Demanding that foreign-made products prove   they   meet   the   standard   is   a legitimate, understandable requirement of  those  entrusted  with  protecting  the health,     welfare     and     interest     of consumers and taxpayers. Anything less will    not    adequately    protect    the customer. You talk a lot about competing with the Chinese. Have you been to China? Roddey   Dowd,   Jr.:   I   have   visited China regularly since the mid-1990s to make    sure    we    understand    their capabilities     when     it     comes     to manufacturing plastic and cast iron pipe and  fittings.  My  last  trip  was  just  11 months ago. I have been in the primary cast    iron    pipe    plants    which    are supplying    the    importers.    As    the evidence     presented     in     Michigan demonstrates,  and  from  my  firsthand observations,   these   foundries   supply multiple U.S. and European importers. They  have  no  knowledge  of  the  U.S. market or our manufacturing standards and will put anyone’s name on the pipe if they place an order. Based  on  your  knowledge  of  the Chinese   production   base,   did   the Michigan decision surprise you? Roddey  Dowd,  Jr.:  Not  at  all.  What surprises   me   is   the   fact   that   these questions hadn’t surfaced earlier. Having been in this business for 27 years, I’ve come to understand how difficult it is to produce a high quality product. I would certainly not be comfortable relying on the   multiple   parties   involved   in   this supply   chain   to   guarantee   quality sufficient to put the Charlotte® brand on. The  foundries  in  China  are  very  small shops  with  primitive  technology.  They are   undercapitalized   and   extremely challenged  by  the  rapid  increases  they are  facing  in  wages,  raw  materials  and energy.   There’s   no   need   to   even comment on safety and the environment —  no  controls  exist.  No  wonder  the importers did not want a minimal safety reference added to the ASTM standard. Doesn’t   the   fact   that   they   have certification give some level of quality assurance to the buyer? Roddey  Dowd,  Jr.:  As to third-party certification, it’s important to understand  and  quantify  the  level  of expertise  that  the  inspection  agency has. Based on my experience, the third party  certification  in  China  is  lax  to inconsistent.   Charlotte   Pipe’s   plastic and cast iron products carry third party certification.  Without  saying  more,  we would state that we see a wide disparity in inspection expertise and rigor. That is why   the   cast   iron   ASTM   standards require that product certification must be done by the foundry which pours the metal. Furthermore, the one entity that knows  the  most  about  inspecting  soil pipe  is  CISPI.  The  CISPI  quality  control program,  which  is  certified  by  NSF,  is rigorous and extensive. Along with other senior   executives   in   our   Cast   Iron Division,   I   receive   a   copy   of   every inspection   report   and   see   any   non- compliant items, which we immediately correct. Phc:   What   would   you   like   your legacy to be at Charlotte Pipe? Charlotte  Pipe:  We  would  like  to  see Charlotte  Pipe  and  Foundry  remain  a privately held company and an industry leader. We want to continue to innovate. We want to continue to work everyday to develop and maintain close relationships with   our   customers   and   provide   a reasonable  return  to  our  shareholders. And we would like to see the company continue   to   look   after   its   wonderful associates,  providing  good  jobs  here  in America. Phc: The history of Charlotte Pipe is solid;  where  does  the  company  go from here? Charlotte  Pipe:  We  will  continue  to re-invest to make sure that we are able to weather the tough times and prosper in  good  times.  It  is  important  to  keep our focus on the horizon and to manage the details of our business carefully so we  can  be  the  kind  of  company  our customers,   ownership,   suppliers   and associates can be proud to work with. n Phc News —  JUNE 2008 3 Reprinted with permission from Phc News (plumbing & hydronic contractor news), June 2008 by The Reprint Outsource, 717-394-7350